We believe in treating the client during the entire process of recovery.
‘No matter what’ is the foundation we seek to instill in the clients we treat.
As part of the human experience, life presents great joy and great obstacles. When we are living in despair and fear, some people turn to drugs, alcohol, or some other unhealthy behavior that leads us to a pattern where we feel like we’re circling the drain.
Whatever you are dealing with, you never have to use drugs or alcohol again. No. Matter. What.
No Matter What Recovery is your lifeline to wellness. In addition to providing education on healthy boundaries and communication in our everyday lives, we also treat the physical body with its ailments as holistically as we can.
We believe in reestablishing the way our clients handle life in the journey beyond treatment. Giving them a foundation that “we don’t drink or use, no matter what.”
We provide our clients with a plan for success, including aftercare and introducing them to a sponsor or recovery coach, as well as keeping them involved in the “No Matter What” community.
We can recover alone if we choose, but as addicts, we thrive in unity. We can’t do this alone.
We want this to be your last stop. You don’t have to ever drink or use again. We offer the hand of guidance and a way out; all you have to do is be willing.
If you are willing, we’ve got you the entire way. Every life is important. Every person matters. Every person is worthy of a life of love and happiness.
We give you the tools to help heal your body, mind, heart, and spirit.
Welcome to No Matter What Recovery!
Paulo Anthony Grayson is originally from New Orleans, Louisiana, and now calls Los Angeles his home.
In addition to being Chief Executive Officer of No Matter What Recovery, Paulo works as a sober companion and is part of a team that conducts interventions with a focus on adolescents.
Paulo understands the importance of consistency and patience in early sobriety and helping others is his passion. He strives to make recovery for every client as impactful as possible while helping to instill healthy habits and alternatives to substance abuse.
Paulo has more than five years sober and is active in the Los Angeles recovery community: he serves as a chair on the Alcoholics Anonymous Los Angeles Convention (AALA) committee, as well as holds several service positions in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) and Crystal Meth Anonymous (CMA).
Recognizing the need to be of service in other areas of his life, Paulo rides on a sober cycling team called the ‘Trudging Buddies.’ This group participates in the AIDS LifeCycle — a 545-mile bike ride from San Francisco to Los Angeles to raise money for the Los Angeles LGBT Center and the San Francisco AIDS Foundation.
Paulo and his partner, Anthony, have two fur-babies — Nando and Decatur. Through sobriety, Paulo has had the gift of repairing his relationship with his family and loves to visit them in New Orleans as often as possible.
In his free time, Paulo enjoys anything athletic or fitness related, spending time with his friends, dining out, cooking at home, and binge-watching his favorite television shows. Furthering his career, Paulo is currently working on his Bachelors in Business at Grand Canyon University.
Monica is the Clinical Director for No Matter What Recovery.
Her focus is on addictions, co-occurring disorders, trauma, eating disorders, depression, anxiety, sexual abuse, domestic violence, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, mood disorders, grief and loss, school and behavioral issues, personality disorders, self-harm, self-esteem, and interpersonal and relationship issues.
Monica has over 25 years of clinical experience in diverse settings and has experience with many different client populations in a wide variety of settings, including those with severe and persistent mental illness, people experiencing homelessness, and victims of trauma.
She has worked closely with the numerous local government health departments and agencies and has consulted on a number of shows and series as an expert. In addition, she is a seasoned presenter in national conferences.
Monica received an M.A. in Clinical Psychology from Pepperdine University, a B.A. in Psychology from the University of Colorado, and is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist
(License #LMFT36882).
Gabby Estrada is the Sober Living Regional Manager for No Matter What Recovery Residences. Prior to joining the team full-time, Gabby has worked in management and assistant management roles in both substance abuse/mental health treatment and the travel and tourism industry.
As a nonbinary trans queer person, Gabby understands the difficulties and complexities of life that make the LGBTQ+ community so much more susceptible to substance abuse and mental health issues. After years of hiding her true self in her using, Gabby openly shares about her life experiences and her recovery. She strives to create a sober environment where all can feel safe to be their authentic selves without fear of being disrespected or shamed for who they are or what they did in their past.
Gabby is a Latinx Native Angeleno and identifies as non-binary trans. In her free time, she enjoys going out to eat, working on her fitness goals, reading books, binge-watching TV shows, and going to concerts. She is an active member in AA, CMA, HA, and NA meetings across the LA area and has found fulfillment in helping others who still struggle.
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Danilo is the Operations Manager at No Matter What Recovery. Danilo’s primary role is to oversee the day-to-day operations and client care at the treatment center.
Danilo brings several years of management and front office experience in the medical field, working for a prominent neurologist in Beverly Hills as well as a chiropractic office. Earlier in his career, he honed his organizational skills working as a personal assistant in the demanding and fast paced world of the music industry.
Danilo is sober and continues to stay involved in the recovery community here in Los Angeles. He identifies as a gay man inspired by gender bending figures in pop culture. He appreciates working in an environment where he can live life the way he was meant to – being true to his authentic self.
Danilo was born in Mexico and raised in Los Angeles. As an immigrant, he takes pride in his commitment to establishing a better life for himself and his family here in the United States despite the challenges.
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John is a Primary Therapist at No Matter What Recovery and has been involved insubstance abuse treatment for the past 10 years. He overcame his own issues with substance abuse years ago and decided to commit to a career in helping others.
John received a Bachelor of Arts in psychology from Hunter College of the City University of New York. After receiving a certified alcohol and drug counselor certification from UCLA, John became a member of the California Consortium of Addiction Programs and Professionals (CCAPP). John completed a Masters of Clinical Psychology from Antioch University.
John has a deep understanding of the root cause of substance abuse and is trained in EMDR, trauma-focused CBT, and DBT.
In his free time, John enjoys spending time with his daughter, music, and aviation.
Primary Therapist
Jo Bloomer is a Primary Therapist at No Matter What Recovery. She began seeing individuals and couples in 2013 at The Relational Center and The Southern California Counseling Center, both in Los Angeles.
Jo received a BFA in Acting from NYU, Tisch School of the Arts and trained at its Experimental Theater Wing. She finds that her background in acting organically informs her interest in attuning to people and their stories.
Jo received a Masters of Science, with a focus on Marriage and Family Therapy, from Cal State, Northridge. She is passionate about the therapeutic relationship and believes strongly in treating the client as a whole person.
Jo identifies as a surfer, though she has yet to properly stand up and stay up on a wave for more than a moment. She believes her wave is coming!
Primary Therapist
Ruben is a Primary Therapist at No Matter What Recovery. As an Associate Marriage and Family Therapist and Associate Professional Clinical Counselor, he takes an integrative, collaborative, client-centered approach.
Ruben specializes in working with people navigating addiction and recovery, helping them explore the psychological, biological, social, family-centered, and early development factors involved. He is also passionate about helping LGBTQ+ people work through matters like coming out, gender dysphoria, internalized oppression, and other matters specific to the community.
Skilled at helping those struggling with depression, anxiety, PTSD, complex trauma, grief and loss, career development, aging, and relationship challenges, Ruben focuses on people’s strengths and finding solutions. With a Bachelor’s degree from UCLA and a Master’s degree in Clinical Psychology from Antioch University, he is trained in cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT), and mindfulness-based relapse prevention (MBRP), drawing from psychodynamic, narrative, solution-focused, and family systems influences.
Ruben is a Los Angeles native and loves travel, running, yoga, and baking.
Case Manager
Jack is the case manager at No Matter What Recovery and has worked in the dual diagnosis treatment field for 2 years.
In that short time, Jack has gained experience working with varying special populations in multiple positions; from counseling previously incarcerated individuals to managing the cases of dual-diagnosed clients struggling with substance use and eating disorders, he has found his passion in serving the LGBTQ community.
As both a member of the LGBTQ community and with his experience in working closely with the demographic, Jack has insight into the unique barriers to treatment faced by the community and has learned how to employ inventiveness when it comes to navigating these barriers. He meets every client, face-to-face, on their first day of clinical programming to ensure a plan is devised to optimize success, whether that is addressing legal matters, prioritizing medical needs, planning aftercare, and beyond.
Jack is currently in the process of obtaining certification as an alcohol and drug counselor (CADC-I); he completed his education with Marste Training Services and is presently a Registered Alcohol and Drug Technician (RADT). Prior to entering the treatment field, he received his Bachelor of Fine Arts from Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California where he graduated in 2014. Jack still finds ways to apply his creativity in exploring solutions for all clients and their individual needs.
Jack was born in Santiago, Chile, but was raised in Ojai, California and still spends many of his weekends in his hometown. In his free time, you can find Jack tending to his many orchids, feeding his sourdough starter, or tackling a baking project alongside his husband.
If you’re willing, we’ve got you the entire way. Every life is important. Every person matters. Every person is worthy of a life of love and happiness.
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